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		<title>By: EMSI ASAP Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Alert - insurance medicals</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-2298</link>
		<dc:creator>EMSI ASAP Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Alert - insurance medicals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Birth control and health insurance  By Ashley  Why is it that if you have medical insurance in the US, a woman still has to pay for birth control? It seems interesting that the health insurance industry, will charge women a monthly co-pay for birth control. &#8230;   Wide Open Wallet - http://wideopenwallet.com [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...]  Birth control and health insurance  By Ashley  Why is it that if you have medical insurance in the US, a woman still has to pay for birth control? It seems interesting that the health insurance industry, will charge women a monthly co-pay for birth control. &#8230;   Wide Open Wallet - <a href="http://wideopenwallet.com" rel="nofollow">http://wideopenwallet.com</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carnivals and Weekly Roundup &#124; LivingAlmostLarge</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator>Carnivals and Weekly Roundup &#124; LivingAlmostLarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] guest post at WideOpenWallet &#8220;Birth Conrol and US healthcare&#8220;    Share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Livingalmostlarge</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-628</link>
		<dc:creator>Livingalmostlarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I guess personal responsibility is cool, but heck have you seen the rising rate of AIDS in people between 18-25?   All heterosexuals who are the fastest growing group of people contracting AIDS?

These people should be using condom which can be free from planned parenthood, but they don't. And since STDs in general are on the rise, then obviously people aren't practicing safe sex.

Also, consider that people who need birth control are people who have children but don't want more. Or those in monogamous relationships but don't want kids?

Sure the cost has to be taken over somewhere, but why should it be the consumer?  It costs way more for AIDS medication, wel baby care, etc, than just preventing the problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I guess personal responsibility is cool, but heck have you seen the rising rate of AIDS in people between 18-25?   All heterosexuals who are the fastest growing group of people contracting AIDS?</p>
<p>These people should be using condom which can be free from planned parenthood, but they don&#8217;t. And since STDs in general are on the rise, then obviously people aren&#8217;t practicing safe sex.</p>
<p>Also, consider that people who need birth control are people who have children but don&#8217;t want more. Or those in monogamous relationships but don&#8217;t want kids?</p>
<p>Sure the cost has to be taken over somewhere, but why should it be the consumer?  It costs way more for AIDS medication, wel baby care, etc, than just preventing the problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Osborn</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Osborn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as free. Someone has to pay for it. 

If the insurance company pays for it, which they generally do, they pass the costs on to the policyholder. 

If the government pays for it, the costs, plus the bureaucracy, get passed on to the taxpayer. 

I am not opposed to the government providing birth control at no charge, but please, let's not call it free. 

Don
http://mtnhealthinsurance.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as free. Someone has to pay for it. </p>
<p>If the insurance company pays for it, which they generally do, they pass the costs on to the policyholder. </p>
<p>If the government pays for it, the costs, plus the bureaucracy, get passed on to the taxpayer. </p>
<p>I am not opposed to the government providing birth control at no charge, but please, let&#8217;s not call it free. </p>
<p>Don<br />
<a href="http://mtnhealthinsurance.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="urchinTracker('/outgoing/mtnhealthinsurance.com?referer=');">http://mtnhealthinsurance.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Red</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-608</link>
		<dc:creator>Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it is free to those who have lower income, just go to your local health department. I live in a small city in Iowa, and have lived in an even smaller city in Wisconsin, and they will hand you free b/c and do your exams for free also. 

In MN if you are a college student, you automatically qualify for the free birth control.

Check into your local department of health. I bet its just that they do not advertise that this is a cheap/free service that they can offer you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it is free to those who have lower income, just go to your local health department. I live in a small city in Iowa, and have lived in an even smaller city in Wisconsin, and they will hand you free b/c and do your exams for free also. </p>
<p>In MN if you are a college student, you automatically qualify for the free birth control.</p>
<p>Check into your local department of health. I bet its just that they do not advertise that this is a cheap/free service that they can offer you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Debt Dieter</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>Debt Dieter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Birth control isn't free in Australia; it's about $10AU a month? 

That said, it is subsidised by our Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, and if you're on a pension/welfare it's only a couple of dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Birth control isn&#8217;t free in Australia; it&#8217;s about $10AU a month? </p>
<p>That said, it is subsidised by our Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, and if you&#8217;re on a pension/welfare it&#8217;s only a couple of dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 21:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's funny how Mike's libertarian ideology ends up sounding so much like the Vatican's approach to sex, particularly with comments like this:

&#62;But wouldn’t it be easier to teach personal responsibility then hand out birth control.

No, not in the real world, not if "personal responsibility" is defined as abstaining from sex with one's spouse because one is short of money that month.  That is not easy at all, even for diligent people with good self-control, and the consequences for a single slip-up can be very large indeed. 

Contraception for fertile people with opposite-sex partners (which is a huge percentage of the population) is basic health care, and there is nothing unreasonable about expecting a health plan to cover it, particularly because it saves the insurance company money.  To the extent that US health care is a free market, this is a market failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how Mike&#8217;s libertarian ideology ends up sounding so much like the Vatican&#8217;s approach to sex, particularly with comments like this:</p>
<p>&gt;But wouldn’t it be easier to teach personal responsibility then hand out birth control.</p>
<p>No, not in the real world, not if &#8220;personal responsibility&#8221; is defined as abstaining from sex with one&#8217;s spouse because one is short of money that month.  That is not easy at all, even for diligent people with good self-control, and the consequences for a single slip-up can be very large indeed. </p>
<p>Contraception for fertile people with opposite-sex partners (which is a huge percentage of the population) is basic health care, and there is nothing unreasonable about expecting a health plan to cover it, particularly because it saves the insurance company money.  To the extent that US health care is a free market, this is a market failure.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about us married women who don't want to pop out another kid every year?  My husband and I aren't ready financially or personally to have kids and we know it.  The way some people talk, it sounds like we're supposed to either give up marital relations or pop out a kid a year.  If that's the argument, then they should just say what they mean, that they think sex should only be for procreation, period.  But it's evidently more popular to focus the debate on the sexual habits of teens and call them dumb or irresponsible then to tell adults that they're not allowed to have sex unless they want kids and they want them now.     

And what about those who are taking medications or have medical issues that make it highly likely that any unplanned pregnancies would end badly?  Pregnancy might not be a disease, but even for healthy adults pregnancy is hard on one's body and has many risks -- another good reason women shouldn't be forced to chose between abstinence or popping out a dozen kids.      

Birth control isn't just about letting teens have sex with fewer consequences.  It's a concern for all men and women who have sex, not to mention everyone else who has to face the consequences of not just unwanted children but also the many issues raised by unwanted pregnancy itself.  Let's not forget how important birth control has been in helping women compete with men in the work force, enabling us not just to have fulfilling careers aside from motherhood, but also to support ourselves and our families without having to depend on men (and particularly abusive ones).    

Now, I know that we can pay for our own birth control.  However, what bothers me is 1. that so many people still want to take away birth control altogether, 2. that the birth control debate seems to focus so much on shaming minors who make 'bad decisions' instead of on giving choices to consenting (and often married) adults, and 3. that it seems that both in the government and even in private insurance companies, ideology is often more important than what should be basic financial sense -- not to mention a bit more compassion for all the women out there who can't afford the birth control but can't afford to get pregnant, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about us married women who don&#8217;t want to pop out another kid every year?  My husband and I aren&#8217;t ready financially or personally to have kids and we know it.  The way some people talk, it sounds like we&#8217;re supposed to either give up marital relations or pop out a kid a year.  If that&#8217;s the argument, then they should just say what they mean, that they think sex should only be for procreation, period.  But it&#8217;s evidently more popular to focus the debate on the sexual habits of teens and call them dumb or irresponsible then to tell adults that they&#8217;re not allowed to have sex unless they want kids and they want them now.     </p>
<p>And what about those who are taking medications or have medical issues that make it highly likely that any unplanned pregnancies would end badly?  Pregnancy might not be a disease, but even for healthy adults pregnancy is hard on one&#8217;s body and has many risks &#8212; another good reason women shouldn&#8217;t be forced to chose between abstinence or popping out a dozen kids.      </p>
<p>Birth control isn&#8217;t just about letting teens have sex with fewer consequences.  It&#8217;s a concern for all men and women who have sex, not to mention everyone else who has to face the consequences of not just unwanted children but also the many issues raised by unwanted pregnancy itself.  Let&#8217;s not forget how important birth control has been in helping women compete with men in the work force, enabling us not just to have fulfilling careers aside from motherhood, but also to support ourselves and our families without having to depend on men (and particularly abusive ones).    </p>
<p>Now, I know that we can pay for our own birth control.  However, what bothers me is 1. that so many people still want to take away birth control altogether, 2. that the birth control debate seems to focus so much on shaming minors who make &#8216;bad decisions&#8217; instead of on giving choices to consenting (and often married) adults, and 3. that it seems that both in the government and even in private insurance companies, ideology is often more important than what should be basic financial sense &#8212; not to mention a bit more compassion for all the women out there who can&#8217;t afford the birth control but can&#8217;t afford to get pregnant, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-604</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fitwallet:  I agree the government gets stuck with the bill when people have babies they can't afford.  But wouldn't it be easier to teach personal responsibility then hand out birth control.  The government is not intended to be an insurance plan to bail you out when you make bad decisions.  However, that is what democrats are trying to make the government.  It is time for Americans to take responsibility for their actions (ie: don't have unprotected sex if you can't afford kids that may result from it) and not look to the government for a bailout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fitwallet:  I agree the government gets stuck with the bill when people have babies they can&#8217;t afford.  But wouldn&#8217;t it be easier to teach personal responsibility then hand out birth control.  The government is not intended to be an insurance plan to bail you out when you make bad decisions.  However, that is what democrats are trying to make the government.  It is time for Americans to take responsibility for their actions (ie: don&#8217;t have unprotected sex if you can&#8217;t afford kids that may result from it) and not look to the government for a bailout.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://wideopenwallet.com/2008/08/birth-control-and-health-insurance/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Viagra is a prescription to remedy a medical condition, erectile dysfunction.  Birth control is not a remedy to a condition, but rather a precaution for pregnancy.  Insurance companies insure against medical conditions, they don't pay out to cover expenses for a personal choice, having sex when not wanting to get pregnant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Viagra is a prescription to remedy a medical condition, erectile dysfunction.  Birth control is not a remedy to a condition, but rather a precaution for pregnancy.  Insurance companies insure against medical conditions, they don&#8217;t pay out to cover expenses for a personal choice, having sex when not wanting to get pregnant.</p>
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